1909-S $5 AU58 Certification #43065935, PCGS #8516

Expert Comments

David Akers (1975/88)

The 1909-S is one of the four or five rarest issues of the series. Among San Francisco Mint issues it is virtually on par with the 1915-S and is far more rare than the lower mintage 1908-S. Mint State examples at any level are rare and in high Mint State grades, i.e. MS-64 or better, there are probably fewer than 20 specimens in all. The two best I have seen are the Brand and Norweb specimens, both better than MS-65 and undoubtedly obtained directly from the Mint at the time of issue. The Brand coin is now owned by Dr. Steven Duckor, the Norweb specimen by Dr. Thaine Price. Kruthoffer's specimen was also a gem and I have handled at least three others of that quality.

The 1909-S is almost always sharply struck and the mintmark is bold and well defined. (On at least one specimen-Norweb-the mintmark is widely double punched.) Nearly all Mint State examples are frosty but I have seen a few of the satiny variety. Lustre is generally very good to excellent and, overall, a nice 1909-S looks very much like a nice 1908-S or 1910-S. Most specimens have a rich coppery gold color although some are light to medium yellow gold.
PCGS #
8516
Designer
Bela Lyon Pratt
Edge
Reeded
Diameter
21.60 millimeters
Weight
8.36 grams
Mintage
297200
Metal
90% Gold, 10% Copper
Pop Higher
359
Pop Lower
437
Region
The United States of America
Price Guide
PCGS Population
Auctions - PCGS Graded
Auctions - NGC Graded

Rarity and Survival Estimates Learn More

Grades
65 or Better 1766 R-4.6 4 / 24 4 / 24
All Grades 333 R-6.3 3 / 24 3 / 24
60 or Better 7 R-9.6 8 / 24 8 / 24
65 or Better 1766
All Grades 333
60 or Better 7
65 or Better R-4.6
All Grades R-6.3
60 or Better R-9.6
65 or Better 4 / 24
All Grades 3 / 24
60 or Better 8 / 24
65 or Better 4 / 24
All Grades 3 / 24
60 or Better 8 / 24

Condition Census Learn More

Pos Grade Thumbnail Pedigree and History
1 MS67 PCGS grade

Virgil Brand Collection, believed to have been obtained directly from the San Francisco Mint in the year of issue - Dr. Steven L. Duckor Collection - David Akers “Auction ‘90” 8/1990:1804, $77,000 - Superior 3/2000:918, $48,875

2 MS66 PCGS grade MS66 PCGS grade

Norweb Collection - Bowers & Merena 10/1987:981 - Dr. Thaine B. Price Collection - David Akers 5/1998:22, $44,000 - Simpson Collection

2 MS66 PCGS grade MS66 PCGS grade

Heritage 1/2002:8195, not sold - Jim O'Neal Collection of $5 Indians - Heritage 1/2011:5139, $103,500

4 MS65 PCGS grade
4 MS65 PCGS grade
#1 MS67 PCGS grade

Virgil Brand Collection, believed to have been obtained directly from the San Francisco Mint in the year of issue - Dr. Steven L. Duckor Collection - David Akers “Auction ‘90” 8/1990:1804, $77,000 - Superior 3/2000:918, $48,875

MS66 PCGS grade #2 MS66 PCGS grade

Norweb Collection - Bowers & Merena 10/1987:981 - Dr. Thaine B. Price Collection - David Akers 5/1998:22, $44,000 - Simpson Collection

MS66 PCGS grade #2 MS66 PCGS grade

Heritage 1/2002:8195, not sold - Jim O'Neal Collection of $5 Indians - Heritage 1/2011:5139, $103,500

#4 MS65 PCGS grade
#4 MS65 PCGS grade