1817 50C AU55 Certification #28333310, PCGS #6109

Owner's Comments

O-103a (103.4), Silver-grey with touches of amber and russet, with strong, original luster. A curious example struck from a pair of VLDS (Very Late Die State) dies, which condition is sometimes referred to as the 103'b' (although Overton never recognized a 'b' state for this marriage). The Obverse die progression has went from the 191.7 "punctuated date", to a point where the original Die Dot that shows the punctuation is no longer visible, and then to a point where a new smaller "Dot" appears in a different place than the original (lower and to the right, closer to the 7), and then that "Dot" also fades away, with the stars becoming more drawn to the segments. In this case, the smaller "Dot" is still visible (barely), but with the stars noticeably drawn enough, that after some back and forth with members of the BHNC, I have it listed as a 103.4 for my census, the latest state for the die. Additionally, it should be noted, after careful study, I do not believe the newer "Dot" is a tooling mark like the first is suspected to be, but is a tight grouping of rust pits (I think I count three prominent ones). This Obverse Die was later used for the O-105 remarriage. Finally, on another interesting side note, this is also the Reverse Die for the famous 1817/4 Die Marriage (note the I's in UNITED and AMERICA missing the lower right serifs, causing them to look somewhat like J's). Some of the reverse letters and the lower olive leaf tips are also drawn strongly into the segments, and the clashing beneath the claws and through 50 C. is prominent.

Expert Comments

Ron Guth

In 1817, the U.S. Mint produced over 1.2 million Half Dollars.  Among those, researchers have identified thirteen different die varieties, including two overdates (1817/3 and the exceedingly rare 1817/4) and one with a so-called "Punctuated Date" (actually a die chip between the 1 and the 7).  This date is plentiful in most grades, though Mint State examples are scarce to rare, a fact exascerbated by the popularity of the series and the wide distribution of known examples.  At the top end, the best example rates MS67. All of the coins in the PCGS CoinFacts Condition Census are MS65 or better.

PCGS #
6109
Designer
John Reich
Edge
Lettered: FIFTY CENTS OR HALF A DOLLAR
Diameter
32.50 millimeters
Weight
13.50 grams
Mintage
1215567
Metal
89.2% Silver, 10.8% Copper
Pop Higher
134
Pop Lower
944
Region
The United States of America
Price Guide
PCGS Population
Auctions - PCGS Graded
Auctions - NGC Graded

Rarity and Survival Estimates Learn More

Grades
65 or Better 3000 R-4.4 46 / 72 TIE 49 / 78 TIE
All Grades 100 R-8.0 40 / 72 TIE 43 / 78 TIE
60 or Better 12 R-9.5 41 / 72 TIE 42 / 78 TIE
65 or Better 3000
All Grades 100
60 or Better 12
65 or Better R-4.4
All Grades R-8.0
60 or Better R-9.5
65 or Better 46 / 72 TIE
All Grades 40 / 72 TIE
60 or Better 41 / 72 TIE
65 or Better 49 / 78 TIE
All Grades 43 / 78 TIE
60 or Better 42 / 78 TIE

Condition Census Learn More

Pos Grade Thumbnail Pedigree and History
1 MS67 PCGS grade MS67 PCGS grade

Heritage 1/2007:968, $25,300 - Duffy Collection - Heritage 7/2008:1679, $32,200 - D. Brent Pogue Collection - Stack's/Bowers & Sotheby's 9/2015:2023, $64,625 - Dr. Charles Link Collection

2 MS66 PCGS grade MS66 PCGS grade

George H. Earle Collection - Henry Chapman 6/1912 - John H. Clapp Collection, sold intact in 1942 - Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. Collection - Bowers & Merena 4/1997:1745 - Sheridan Downey FPL 12/1997, not sold - David Akers, sold privately at the 2002 American Numismatic Association convention - D. Brent Pogue Collection - Stack's/Bowers & Sotheby's 9/2015:2024, $58,750

2 MS66 PCGS grade MS66 PCGS grade

George H. Earle Collection - Henry Chapman 6/1912 - John H. Clapp Collection, sold intact in 1942 - Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. Collection - Bowers & Merena 4/1997:1739, $4,840 - Heritage 7/2003:7409 - Stuart Levine, sold privately - D. Brent Pogue Collection - Stack's/Bowers & Sotheby's 9/2015:2022, $25,850

2 MS66 PCGS grade MS66 PCGS grade

Good River Collection - Superior 5/2006:567, $29,900

5 MS65 PCGS grade  
	PCGS #6109 (MS) 65

George H. Earle Collection - Henry Chapman 6/1912 - John H. Clapp Collection, sold intact in 1942 - Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. Collection - Bowers & Merena 4/1997:1740, $18,700 - Joseph C. Thomas Collection - Heritage 4/2009:2417, $27,600

MS67 PCGS grade #1 MS67 PCGS grade

Heritage 1/2007:968, $25,300 - Duffy Collection - Heritage 7/2008:1679, $32,200 - D. Brent Pogue Collection - Stack's/Bowers & Sotheby's 9/2015:2023, $64,625 - Dr. Charles Link Collection

MS66 PCGS grade #2 MS66 PCGS grade

George H. Earle Collection - Henry Chapman 6/1912 - John H. Clapp Collection, sold intact in 1942 - Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. Collection - Bowers & Merena 4/1997:1745 - Sheridan Downey FPL 12/1997, not sold - David Akers, sold privately at the 2002 American Numismatic Association convention - D. Brent Pogue Collection - Stack's/Bowers & Sotheby's 9/2015:2024, $58,750

MS66 PCGS grade #2 MS66 PCGS grade

George H. Earle Collection - Henry Chapman 6/1912 - John H. Clapp Collection, sold intact in 1942 - Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. Collection - Bowers & Merena 4/1997:1739, $4,840 - Heritage 7/2003:7409 - Stuart Levine, sold privately - D. Brent Pogue Collection - Stack's/Bowers & Sotheby's 9/2015:2022, $25,850

MS66 PCGS grade #2 MS66 PCGS grade

Good River Collection - Superior 5/2006:567, $29,900

 
	PCGS #6109 (MS) 65 
#5 MS65 PCGS grade

George H. Earle Collection - Henry Chapman 6/1912 - John H. Clapp Collection, sold intact in 1942 - Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. Collection - Bowers & Merena 4/1997:1740, $18,700 - Joseph C. Thomas Collection - Heritage 4/2009:2417, $27,600