1809/8 $5 AU53 Certification #46959736, PCGS #8104

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Expert Comments

David Akers (1975/88)

This is one of the most common dates of this type and is reasonably available in all conditions including choice uncirculated. As is the case with most dates of this type, the typical specimen is well struck. Although some cataloguers have listed certain examples as simply "1809", all known specimens are actually overdates.

Ron Guth

Specialist know of only one die variety for 1809: BD-1 (Breen 1-A). The overdate status of this variety is unclear. Both Bass and Dannreuther questioned the undertype, with Dannreuther noting "There is something under the 9, but whether it is an 8 or remnants of an erroneously punched 9 is uncertain."

Numerous MS64 and better examples are known of this variety and date. The finest example is a single PCGS MS66 from the D. Brent Pogue Collection.

Sources and/or recommended reading:
John W. Dannreuther and Harry W. Bass, Jr., "Early U.S. Gold Coin Varieties"

PCGS #

8104

Designer

John Reich

Edge

Reeded

Diameter

25.00 millimeters

Weight

8.75 grams

Mintage

33875

Metal

91.7% Gold, 8.3% Copper

Pop Higher

182

Pop Lower

Region

The United States of America

Price Guide

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Rarity and Survival Estimates Learn More

Grades	Survival Estimate The Survival Estimate represents an average of one or more experts opinions as to how many examples survive of a particular coin in three categories: 1) all grades, 2) 60 or better, and 3) 65 or better. These estimates are based on a variety of sources, including population reports, auction appearances, and personal knowledge. Survival estimates include coins that are raw, certified by PCGS, and certified by other grading services.	Numismatic Rarity Numismatic Rarity converts the Survival Estimate for a particular coin into a number from 1 to 10 (with decimal increments) based on the PCGS Rarity Scale. The higher the number, the more rare the coin.	Relative Rarity by Type Relative Rarity By Type ranks the rarity of this coin with all other coins of this Type. Lower numbers indicate rarer coins.	Relative Rarity by Series Relative Rarity By Series ranks the rarity of this coin with all other coins of this Series. Lower numbers indicate rarer coins.
65 or Better	350	R-6.3	7 / 11	37 / 42
All Grades	150	R-7.5	8 / 11	37 / 42
60 or Better	6	R-9.7	5 / 11	28 / 42 TIE

Survival Estimate The Survival Estimate represents an average of one or more experts opinions as to how many examples survive of a particular coin in three categories: 1) all grades, 2) 60 or better, and 3) 65 or better. These estimates are based on a variety of sources, including population reports, auction appearances, and personal knowledge. Survival estimates include coins that are raw, certified by PCGS, and certified by other grading services.
65 or Better	350
All Grades	150
60 or Better	6

Numismatic Rarity Numismatic Rarity converts the Survival Estimate for a particular coin into a number from 1 to 10 (with decimal increments) based on the PCGS Rarity Scale. The higher the number, the more rare the coin.
65 or Better	R-6.3
All Grades	R-7.5
60 or Better	R-9.7

Relative Rarity by Type Relative Rarity By Type ranks the rarity of this coin with all other coins of this Type. Lower numbers indicate rarer coins.
65 or Better	7 / 11
All Grades	8 / 11
60 or Better	5 / 11

Relative Rarity by Series Relative Rarity By Series ranks the rarity of this coin with all other coins of this Series. Lower numbers indicate rarer coins.
65 or Better	37 / 42
All Grades	37 / 42
60 or Better	28 / 42 TIE

Condition Census Learn More

Pos	Grade	Pedigree and History
1	MS66 PCGS grade	F.C.C. Boyd Collection - Numismatic Gallery 1/1946:356 - Paramount (David Akers), sold privately in 8/1985 - D. Brent Pogue Collection - Stack's/Bowers & Sotheby's 2/2016:3136, $152,750
2	MS65 PCGS grade	Stack's 6/2008:2074, $106,375 - Heritage 2/2009:2676, $92,000
2	MS65 PCGS grade	Goldbergs 9/2009:3360, $83,375 - Heritage 1/2011:5089, $126,500
2	MS65 PCGS grade	American Numismatic Rarities 9/2005:1240, $77,625
2	MS65 PCGS grade	D.L. Hansen Collection

#1 MS66 PCGS grade

F.C.C. Boyd Collection - Numismatic Gallery 1/1946:356 - Paramount (David Akers), sold privately in 8/1985 - D. Brent Pogue Collection - Stack's/Bowers & Sotheby's 2/2016:3136, $152,750

#2 MS65 PCGS grade

Stack's 6/2008:2074, $106,375 - Heritage 2/2009:2676, $92,000

#2 MS65 PCGS grade

Goldbergs 9/2009:3360, $83,375 - Heritage 1/2011:5089, $126,500

#2 MS65 PCGS grade

American Numismatic Rarities 9/2005:1240, $77,625

#2 MS65 PCGS grade

D.L. Hansen Collection